by Nadene R. Carter
author of A Cobweb on the Soul and Echoes of
Silence
I’m retired. I had a very active and stressful
working life, and now I put a premium on calm. On any
given day I work on broken things in one of my three
workshops. I don’t do heavy work anymore. Along about
11:00 I tune in Rush Limbaugh, eat lunch, and fall
asleep on the couch. When I wake up I go upstairs to my
lair and write. I come down in time for the O’Reilly
show, and fall asleep watching it. When I wake up I go
back upstairs and write some more, then I go to bed and
read until I get sleepy. Most of my life I’ve been a
hard worker. Idling around never appealed to me. I grew
up on an Ozark farm in the ‘50s, where I learned the
value of hard work.
You have some really interesting hobbies and
interests. Please tell us about them.
A list of things I’m not interested in would be
shorter. I do blacksmithing in season (cold weather) and
I forge with wood, like the old men did when I was a
kid. My next big project will be a 'built from scratch'
model railroad. I garage sale and flea market and find
lots of interesting things, many of which I sell for
good money, after repairing them.
I love to read but don’t read much fiction. My
literary interests are legion. Just now I’m reading
about the medieval economy of western Europe; last
winter I read everything convenient on the silent film
industry; and I’ve been a fan of archeology since I
discovered it existed.
I have a digital camera and I take pictures of
landscapes and animals and whatnot. I hope one day to
enter some of my best in a show. In high school I wrote
a short piece about driving a stripped-down, brakeless,
fenderless, doorless Model B Ford back and forth to
grade school. You could do that, then. The teacher read
the thing to the whole class, which garnered me instant
hatred and envy. I’d been driving since I was ten,
everything from log trucks to tractors to the family car
and pickup.
I understand that at one time you were a technical
writer. Tell me how that has contributed to your ability
to write fiction.
Probably organization. Certainly punctuation, which I
deliberately use in my writing style in ways that would
make Strunk and White take to drink and has disturbed
several editors. The thing is— first know the rules, so
you can break them intelligently.
I never outline a story. I conceive it in my head,
sit down and write it, and then rewrite until satisfied.
I can write on most subjects of up to a couple thousand
words with an hour’s notice, and come in dead on the
wordcount. Once, a lady pal of mine entered ‘us’ in an
SF contest, and wrote me asking if I knew of a quick
plot. I had read the Golden Age SF as a kid, and one
story has always stuck with me. So I updated the
technology, did a few little things, all the while
writing to the ‘spec’, and brought it in at exactly 1K
words. Took about an hour or so. We got honorable
mention. I think it was too ‘out there’ for that
contest. We should’ve won.
Did you write fiction before you were a technical
writer? If so, how old were you when writing first
interested you and what sparked the idea? Please tell us
about your memory of that moment when you knew you
wanted to write.
I began writing in the seventh grade. In that time
and place, the bookmobile would park at the post office
for a couple of hours one day a week, and I’d go down
there and check out all the books they’d let me have. I
looked at the shelves and decided that one day, a book
with my name on it would be up there, too. I went home
and made a place in the smokehouse, got a leftover
school notebook and a pencil, and started to write. I
learned soon that more pencils were good, plus a way of
sharpening them other than a pocketknife. My dad
‘liberated’ a pencil sharpener and a big brown eraser
from work. I can still smell the scent of that thing as
I rubbed it on the paper, the technique of
double-spacing and lining-out having not yet occurred to
me. Dad also put a window in so I had better light. That
winter he added a small woodstove, and I finished
insulating the inside with cardboard. It worked well
enough. Then I got my mother’s Remington portable
typewriter. Now, there’s a great way to build a large
vocabulary, trying to figure out what other word might
work to fix a typo the easiest way. I had a dictionary.
It didn’t have the word ‘computer’ in it. My son pointed
this out when I tried to give it to him some years
later.
How long ago did you get serious about fiction
writing? What things did you study to learn the craft?
Did you take classes in fiction writing?
By the time I’d reached my older teen years, my
desire to write was well entrenched. I learned by
reading other books, especially science fiction,
westerns, and adventures. I’ve never liked whodunits,
horror, or fantasy. I read nonfiction as it came to
hand.
I did try reading a series of ‘how to write’ books,
but for me they never worked. I took a postal class from
the ‘Writer’s School’. That was enough to convince me
I’d rather go it alone. I knew from the first, I think
instinctively, ‘to write what you know’. I would quibble
whether writing is a ‘craft’. I think it’s more an art
form. Tech writing and grocery lists aside.
When did you first consider yourself a writer? You
know what I mean—the time when you realized that you had
crossed the line from "want to be a writer" to—"I am a
writer".
I’ve put more spare man-hours into writing than all
other interests combined. I have to write. I
changed shifts at my job to get on nights, where as a
fast worker, I had plenty of time to write. Laptops
hadn’t been invented then, so it was still longhand.
When the notion for a story comes to me, I sit down and
write a couple of chapters.
I do not hold with the opinion that one should sit
down and force words onto a screen as a form of
self-discipline. After I finished my very first
full-length story—conceived in a fraction of a second
and three years to write out longhand—I had no interest
in even editing the thing, and that scared me. I feared
I’d shot my bolt. Turned out to be a perfectly normal
reaction.
I understand you have written several novels, as well
as many, many vignettes. What is a vignette? Have you
ever expanded any of these short pieces to a longer
short story or used one as a basis for a novel?
Yes, I’ve got a ‘cycle’ of romance stories set in a
certain locale in southeastern Missouri. As soon as
Needle is ‘launched’ I intend to carpet-bomb Harlequin
with them. A vignette is a small, economy-sized ‘vign’.
In the large vign, one can dump lots of words and
scenes, but a vignette has to be carefully packed,
neatly arranged, all features congruent to make it work,
if it’s meant to be shown. Properly done, they can be
charming.
Next, I'd like to talk about your novels. In what
genres might these works be classified?
In general, I write romances. I do them for the sole
reason that I like to. I have one adventure shoot-em-up
that’s languishing. It’s rough, the minor characters are
stupid and cruel. Only the two main characters are nice.
I think that’s why I don’t bother with it. I’ve got a
little jewel of a humor yarn, but I’m not a humorist. I
don’t know where it came from. It’s an unfinished short
story.
Are you looking for publishers for these other
novels?
As I’ve said, I have Harlequin in mind. My very best
piece of writing, ‘Dunbar’s Station’, is outside their
genre, so I’ll have to hunt a suitable publisher to
submit that to. Unlike most stories I write, it is on a
darker subject, but with a nice ending.
How do you develop your plots and characters? Do you
make notes or outlines before you begin to write, or do
you write to fully develop your ideas?
I never, ever outline. I tried that once, when I
tried to write a mystery. I’ve found it stifles
creativity. If I get a ‘hot’ story going, the characters
begin to grow of themselves, and the story spins right
off my fingertips. I sit down with an idea and begin to
write. Once I had a minor character begin to grow, then
displace the main. That was fascinating to observe, even
as I wrote it. I think an outline would’ve killed what
has turned out to be a really nice story. I develop my
characters during rewrite, though I rarely change
anything of significance. I ‘flesh out’ scenes with
color, scents, seasons, emotions, etc. Keeping the
seasons straight can be tricky, and therein, at the top
of each chapter, I’ll ‘outline’ a couple of things that
indicate season and general subjects in that chapter.
Nothing formal. Usually, I use a chapter title as a
mnemonic.
How do you come up with ideas for your writings and
why do you feel you choose some over others?
I have a special folder in my computer. It has an
access code to open it. It is labeled ‘Dumb Junk’, and
there I go to try out the things I think might have
promise but are a tad bizarre at first glance. When I
was a kid, my mother routinely rooted through my
writings, throwing many away, since the notebook pages
were written on both sides, thus full and therefore
useless. I had no privacy. I come up with a lot of ideas
just by studying people and listening to them talk. For
instance, a group of men carry on a discussion in a
vastly different way from a group of women, provided
both groups are separated in either time or space. I
choose one storyline over another based upon personal
appeal, nothing more. If I don’t like it, I won’t try to
salvage it. But I won’t throw it away, because
occasionally I will go back and fiddle with it, and
eventually, it’ll become a story, or be incorporated
into a better one.
You write so well in the Science Fiction genre. Do
you have other SF ideas that you are thinking about
writing?
Well, thank you, but Needle really never was my first
choice for a science fiction yarn. I essentially wrote
it for fun some few winters ago and was amazed when it
was accepted. Not that it isn’t a good yarn, just not
anything I thought would go as a first try. Of course,
I’ll go where the market is. I tell people who ask,
"Writing and selling a story is like unto going to a
flea market where everyone else is selling
birdhouses—and only birdhouses. Your birdhouse has to
appeal to a buyer over another’s birdhouse, or it
doesn’t sell."
I have one yarn about half-written that is stumbling
badly. I really liked the beginning but it went sour. I
know why, but I haven’t figured out which way I want to
go. I have a couple of other ideas that are in the ‘2
chapter’ stage. I was at an art show with my wife and
found a young man who was doing remarkable
representations of Golden Age Sci Fi illustrations. I
now have one hanging on my wall.
Going back to your vignettes . . . Of all the
vignettes and short pieces you have written, which one
is your favorite? Please tell us a bit about it.
My favorite is called ‘Jerry’s Friend’. Jerry is
mentally handicapped, and he is the POV character
through which the story unfolds. He is a physically huge
young man with a child’s mind, and he takes up with a
small, very cold man named ‘Snake’. Snake has a real
name, and feels sorry for the way the other men treat
Jerry at the sawmill where they all work. He befriends
Jerry, who wants nothing more than acceptance. It ends
with Jerry’s death, trying to save Snake from arrest.
Would you consider publishing some of these short
pieces as a collection? Short story collections are very
popular now.
I didn’t know that. Of course I’d publish anything an
editor wanted to accept. Batting out enough shorts to
fill a collection couldn’t be much of a problem, but
I’ve never actually considered it.
Do you feel you have more than one voice in your
writing?
Eh? Is that one of those technical terms? Of course I
have more than one voice, since all my stories save
‘Jerry’ and ‘Dunbar’s Station’ have different POV’s.
Anyway, the trick is to give your characters different
voices, I’d think. That can get tricky. One way to
practice is to write straight dialogue, no ‘he said, she
said’, and re-read it to see if you can tell who’s
speaking after the fifth or sixth line. It’s best if you
put the thing away for a few days or a week, then try
it.
Primarily, do you write in first or third person?
Why?
Primarily first person, because I like to. For genre
romances, it makes the story seem more intimate. There
are drawbacks, and some stories can’t be written well in
the first person. At least, not by me.
What are your writing goals for the future?
To sell more yarns. And to try to find a publisher
for ‘Dunbar’s Station’.
What projects are you currently working on?
I’ve just finished the final rewrite on ‘Fireball’.
I’m looking for a reader. It’s a romance that begins
with interest between a 26 year old man and a 15 year
old girl, and progresses through the social problems
they face until she comes of age. Next in line is a
rewrite on ‘Yuk Foo’ (working title!) wherein I’m going
to throw in a fast switch of events at the end so the
underdog wins. It’s one of those ‘triangle’ things. Next
in line is ‘Burning Duck’, completely finished except
for some technical research on running an old steam
railroad engine, a couple of chapters worth of ‘vetting,
and that’s ready to go. It’s about a young woman who
rallies a low-rent neighborhood to fight the city’s
condemnation of their homes, and discovers the man she
fell in love with is behind the rezoning. And lastly,
there is ‘A Choice of Evil’, the unpleasant one I
mentioned earlier. It’s actually ready to go, but I want
to fiddle with it just a bit in a couple of places.
Other than that, I’m waiting my next great idea.
What dreams have been realized as a result of your
writing? Any special memories that you would share with
us?
Satisfaction. Personal satisfaction. It would be
great if Needle did really well—unusual for a first
effort—but I’ll keep trying, because you see, I have
to write. When I discovered I could actually create
characters, settings, even a whole town, I experienced a
real sense of achievement.
How do your friends and family feel about your
writing in general?
They are very encouraging. My wife gives me all the
space and help she can. She’s an artist who shows and
sells her work. In the area of creativity we are very
much alike. Point of fact, she did the cover for Needle.
My two children support my efforts. My son-in-law gave
me the best boost on ‘Dunbar’, and he’s not a reader at
all. My granddaughter is coming along: she’s eleven, and
has her own folder on my computer. I never look in it.
What advice would you give to writers just starting
out?
Write. Write more. Write more and more. If you wear
the letters off your keyboard about twice a year, you’re
right in the zone. When you write, write what you know,
or can reasonably research and imagine. Watch out for ‘Webwin’,
(Webster by Windows, the dictionary the Windows
spelchekr uses.) Get a good, thick Oxford Dictionary of
the English Language. Used ones at garage sales are
perfect because they’re cheap. Mine cost me $3. It’s
about 4 inches thick. Get a thesaurus, a good one.
Don’t fear editors, they have a stake in your success
too. And don’t do a huge rewrite to please one, because
you’ll tear the heart out of your story. Above all,
be yourself, write what’s in your soul and don’t let
‘rules’ interfere a whole lot, particularly where style,
mood, dialogue and that ineffable quality called
‘vision’ lives and breathes in all its glorious colors.
If the story’s good, a good editor will point out your
excesses—though you should be alert enough to catch most
yourself. Don’t bombard editors with wacky,
half-polished, first-draft stories and defend them hotly
as ‘my vision’. There are limits to what can be done in
a given genre; the trick is to see how far you can bend
it. Put another way, try to write with a different
coloration.
Find a person with whom you can work to bounce your
stories, or fragments thereof, off each other. You’ll
both grow. Learn to trust yourself. In fact, learn
yourself. That can be very difficult. I know that
submitting a story can be like sending your pumping,
bleeding heart out to be stomped on, but get over that.
Make your birdhouse more attractive or in some way
different.
Do not imagine you will support yourself as an
author. Few can do that, even as few rise above the high
school star quarterback and get into the NFL. Remember,
there are only about four or five basic storylines.
Everything is a variation on a theme. Every generation
recasts the great stories in its own image.
Learn to listen to actual speech patterns, and for
unique ones. Observe people to see how they interact in
real life. Look for odd personal mannerisms that can
serve as ‘beats’. Lastly, never pay anyone to agent your
deathless prose. Guess how I know that.
Above all, write.